Maxikorg vs Korg 800DV

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Postby drawtippy » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:56 pm

It's so rare that these come up on ebay that I had to post it here. It took me over a year to find mine and I hope this helps out anybody looking for one (especially in CA).

http://cgi.ebay.com/Korg-Maxi-Korg-K3-8 ... dZViewItem
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Postby spookyman » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:26 pm

@Jexus

THIS IS BIG AND FAT SOUND !

Amazing how it sounds...really impressed. It doesn't have to be Moog everytime. :wink:

Thanks for the audio demos
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Postby donaldm » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:12 pm

Jexus wrote:1 2 3...is the mic on ?


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Bravo, Sir.
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Postby insky » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:12 am

drawtippy wrote:It's so rare that these come up on ebay that I had to post it here. It took me over a year to find mine and I hope this helps out anybody looking for one (especially in CA).

http://cgi.ebay.com/Korg-Maxi-Korg-K3-8 ... dZViewItem


Holy crap that's almost $1000. Why are these going for so much? I think it's the rarity. I'm glad I got mine when I did.

And Jexus how do you like it?
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Postby moogplayer » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:31 am

that's pretty high. I was thinking $700-$800 tops. The market is getting scary
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Postby Dirk » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:27 am

moogplayer wrote:that's pretty high. I was thinking $700-$800 tops. The market is getting scary


I think the sound of the 800DV is just as musical as a minimoog. (and much more versetile)
Then 800 bucks is not that much.
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Postby ndkent » Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:41 pm

Actually while everyone says it's just like two Korg 700Ss, Korg did cut some real corners. While you get two sets of most features on a 700s they cut back in the VCO department if you had two 700S synths to compare an 800DV with. What you really have are two sets of a VCO and a sub-osc. The single ring mod works between the 2 VCOs so they definitely saved some money by not giving you an actual 4 VCO machine which would likely do bigger sounding leads.

For what it's worth, most Kitaro albums use it as the lead instrument on several tracks, it's definitely his most employed synth for leads. Listen for the auto-bend sound that sweeps a note upward an octave. He obviously plays with the bend time parameter while he plays.

The waveforms are pretty odd looking. High frequency sounds have a unique timbre I've not heard in another synth family. It definitely has a very pure but absolutly not "clinical" sound. Absolutely not a substitute for what a Minimoog is strong at and vice versa. At least for me I can hear a huge difference in it's VCOs versus say a CEM VCO.
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Postby Dirk » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:14 am

ndkent wrote:Actually while everyone says it's just like two Korg 700Ss, Korg did cut some real corners. While you get two sets of most features on a 700s they cut back in the VCO department if you had two 700S synths to compare an 800DV with. What you really have are two sets of a VCO and a sub-osc. The single ring mod works between the 2 VCOs so they definitely saved some money by not giving you an actual 4 VCO machine which would likely do bigger sounding leads.


The second VCO on the 700s can't be detuned ether, it can just have (sub)harmonics of the master vco. Only the 770 has 2 fully ajustable vco's. The 800DV has 2 fully ajustable vco's and 2 extra (sub)harmonic vco's.
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Postby stikygum » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:05 am

$1000 is just too much for one. Considering you can get a 700s for $300.

Thanks for the clips Jexus!
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Postby Jexus » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:17 am

I guess I overdid the visuals a bit.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r6dZR8bNP4
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Postby insky » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:59 am

Gah...you've beat me to posting a video of the MaxiKorg. In my defense mine is ugly and I've been waiting to find replacement knobs and keys to get it video ready. You certainley weren't shy with the ring modulator...or maybe it's because my ear is messed up right now so every thing I hear sounds like it's going through a ring modulator.
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Postby Solderman » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:50 pm

Dirk wrote:The second VCO on the 700s can't be detuned ether, it can just have (sub)harmonics of the master vco. Only the 770 has 2 fully ajustable vco's. The 800DV has 2 fully ajustable vco's and 2 extra (sub)harmonic vco's.


Erm, my 700s has a detune for the second osc. It's only a saw wave though, and it's inverted from the other osc's Saw. I'm certain of this because I spent hours trying to get the tuning of it to scale properly with the first one. It uses two trimpots (lower and upper scale) which is a pain in the arse compared to a single trim adjustment. I am guessing but I believe some of them have it and some don't.

I do wish the 700s had that adjustable resonance like the Maxi though. I'm thinking of modding mine to move the filter resonance trimpots to pots on the outside. The Maxi's switchable bender settings is kinda cool too.

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Postby oryjen » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:46 pm

That K3/Maxikorg/800DV is a really astounding instrument!! What a personnality!
One of my favorites!

I got my one from Switzerland for 260 €, thanx to that good friend Push-Pull, who is such a terrific negociator! 8)
It was in really good condition, and had been CV/gate modded just in the 70's.

You can hear that marvellous synth in The Cure's 2 early LPs, often playing the bass over the Moog Taurus. :wink:
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Postby Micke » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:42 pm

There were two slightly different versions of the Mini-Korg 700S. Afaik, only the second version** had a fine-tune slider in the "effects" section.

Moreover, they use different types of switches for 'effect', 'sustain long' and 'travel vibrato'; the first version has white plastic switches, whereas the second version has the same type as found on the Maxi-Korg 800DV Synthe-bass, 900PS and other Korg synths from that era.

** I'm not sure when this update took place but Korg adverts from 1976 still show the older model.
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Postby oryjen » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:45 pm

Btw, the M500 "Micropreset" doesn't belong to that family:
The 700, 700S, 770, 800DV, 900PS, SyntheBass and PE 1000 have the famous LP & HP serial "Diod filters", while the M500 has the same "KORG35" integrated LP filter than the MS10, X-911 & MS20 MkI.
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Anybody know the differences between the 770 and the 700S?


Do you see the black square blocks in the open synth picture posted by Jexus?

Those are prehistoric integrated modules (VCOs, VCFs, EGs, VCAs): In fact, all discrete circuitry hidden in a plastic black box, to defeat industrial spying.
Well, the VCAs are different, so the sound isn't excatly the same...
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