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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby Alex E » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:04 pm

Why are people so butthurt about mini keys?

I know it's not an ideal solution but they're re releasing the Odyssey for christ sake.
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby commodorejohn » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:10 pm

zoomtheline wrote:How mini are the mini keys anyway? I mean the ms20 mini. Does anyone have huge complaints against them?
I have still not come into contact with the new ms20 mini yet so wouldn't know. Although AG did say on his vids that it wasn't a huge deal and thats coming from a person who thinks certain ways of doing things are a big deal.

It really seems to depend entirely on personal preference and/or whether you have big hands. I personally don't have any trouble with it (in fact, it's kinda nice to be able to easily cover a wider range - on full-size keys, anything over an octave interval is stretching it for me,) but I've heard a few people complaining about it...who knows. As far as I'm concerned, if it keeps the price down I have no problem with it.

knolan wrote:Ugly little synth. Have no sense of it - does is sound good?

Any well known examples of this instrument you can point to?

Here's a nice all-Odyssey multitracked demo of the third-revision Odyssey with the ARP 4075 filter. This is a MkI Odyssey with the 12dB/oct. filter. And this is a MkII with the Moog-patent-infringing 4035 filter. Wonder which filters the repro will include...?

Finally, this is all very curious. Why do you think Korg are doing this; and why have the announced it now in particular?

Obviously they're doing this because they've had great success with new analog products. Why the Odyssey in particular, I'm not sure - possibly because it was the second most popular early all-in-one monosynth, after the Minimoog. As for why announce it now? Easy - because after Roland's yawping about how VA Is The Future, Korg gets to come along and tell all the bummed-out analog junkies who were hoping that this would finally be the year Roland got back into analog "oh hey, guys, guess what, we're still doing this analog thing!" and decisively answer the naysayers who were claiming that the MS-20 Mini was only an anniversary thing and we wouldn't see any further development by Korg...
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby meatballfulton » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:21 pm

Alex E wrote:Why are people so butthurt about mini keys?


It's a technique/muscle memory thing. Like handing a guitarist a ukelele. You have to relearn your technique to play smaller sized keys.

I'd rather have a MIDI module than use either minikeys or 25 note keyboards, just a preference that's shared by many.
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby Bitexion » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:25 pm

knolan wrote:Ugly little synth. Have no sense of it - does is sound good?

I'm a Vangelis fan and know he used one in the '70s - is that the instrument used for lead sounds on Alpha and Pulstar on his album Albedo 0.39?

Any well known examples of this instrument you can point to?

Finally, this is all very curious. Why do you think Korg are doing this; and why have the announced it now in particular?


Kevin.


Pretty much every band in the 70 and 80s who didn't have a minimoog had an Odyssey, cos the ARPs were a bit cheaper. So that would be countless of bands.
The musician community was also kind of split in between ARP's "sliders only" interface and Moog's "knobs only" interface.

Midge Ure of Ultravox used it heavily for leads, you can hear it in almost every UV song.
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby shaft9000 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:28 pm

this is great news, by any measure

just use another Cv keyboard if the one it comes with is too small. it's going to be inexpensive, anyways. it would just cost 50-80% more if repro'ed at full scale.

perhaps they'll do the full-scale version in a kit like ms-20? that would be sweet!

Korg is freaking killing it lately :)
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby meatballfulton » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:28 pm

To put bitexion's comment above in perspective, the only people buying Roland, Korg and Yamaha monosynths in the 70s were those who couldn't afford a Moog or ARP.
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby Kenneth » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:34 pm

The keys on the prototype look just like the ones on the MS-20 mini. Also the switches and sliders look huge in relation to the keys. Looks like an Odyssey mini to me. I certainly don't mind a smaller footprint. I've owned plenty of mini-keys sized synthesizers in the past and it doesn't bother me one bit. The ones Korg has been using on the MS-20 aren't even that small.
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby Kidney05 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:40 pm

commodorejohn wrote:
syntheticsolutions wrote:Surely at some point they should stop remanufacturing pre existing synths and design a really great new analogue?

Rereleases and new releases aren't mutually exclusive, you know. But yeah, it would be nice to see them come up with a fun new synth or two to go along with all the retro love.


Don't the Volcas and Monotribe count? Think of it this way-- there's a couple teams working at Korg now. There's the young guy who's been doing the Volcas and Monotribe, and then the older gents who did the MS-20 Mini, the kit, and now I'm guessing this one, too. The Volca guy hasn't gone away, that I can tell-- expect the next level of Volca sooner rather than later, since the Volcas have been finished for a year.
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby monolith » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:45 pm

This is so cool. Smaller keys don't bother me at all!
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby analoglsd » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:48 pm

This looks sweet!
Personally, I'm glad that it's a bit smaller, but also hope that the keys are at least bigger than the ones on the MS-20mini.

In November, I was contacted by a member of Korg USA, in NY, about renting my Arp Odyssey for a week in January, but they were looking for an early MKII, and mine is a later MKII, so it didn't work out.
When we were discussing it, he led me to believe that they were going to use it to sample it for use in a Motif type synth, and asked me not to mention it.
Well, I guess the cat's out of the bag now, but I would never have guessed that this is what they were working on.
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby Tchammosaur » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:51 pm

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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby syntheticsolutions » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:55 pm

shaft9000 wrote:this is great news, by any measure

just use another Cv keyboard if the one it comes with is too small.


As a regular gigging musician, taking a separate keyboard out is completely unrealistic. I understand how some people can just see past the mini keys but I simply can not tolerate them. Full size keys keep my fluency tight across many boards when jumping from one to the next. I also see no reason other that a small price increase to compromise on size and inherant quality.

I suppose some people just don't like minature instruments, just as others don't mind them. I do love the guitar/ukulele reference
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby rob_lee » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:57 pm

Anyone wanting bigger keys then here you go :lol: :lol:


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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby shaft9000 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:02 pm

syntheticsolutions wrote:
As a regular gigging musician, taking a separate keyboard out is completely unrealistic.


yeah.
all those guys in the 70s and 80s with their multiple keyboards onstage were being completely unrealistic.
i see your point totally :|
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Re: Korg to release ARP Odyssey

Postby commodorejohn » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:03 pm

Kidney05 wrote:Don't the Volcas and Monotribe count? Think of it this way-- there's a couple teams working at Korg now. There's the young guy who's been doing the Volcas and Monotribe, and then the older gents who did the MS-20 Mini, the kit, and now I'm guessing this one, too. The Volca guy hasn't gone away, that I can tell-- expect the next level of Volca sooner rather than later, since the Volcas have been finished for a year.

Yeah, that too - and if you want to get right down to it, as much as the MS-20 Mini was a higher-profile item, in terms of Korg's total modern-analog output, the new new (Monotron, Monotribe, Volcas) outweighs the old new.
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