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Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby ejlif » Wed May 07, 2014 10:39 pm

I bought a slim phatty just to try out the Moog thing and I'm finding this is pretty much my favorite synth. It just has a life and body to it that others don't I get immediate inspiration from it. I've read that there are mixed feelings about the Moog but for me I'm a convert. I'm wondering what do you get by jumping up to the Voyager?
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Re: Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby Solderman » Wed May 07, 2014 11:08 pm

I found two threads on this subject:
Voyager vs. 2 Slim Phattys
Moog Slim/little Phatty vs Voyager RME

The latter includes my own basses demo from 2008. I was experimenting with the dual filters in a feedback configuration while boosting the oscillator mix's treble with a sonic maximizer pedal to get most of those sounds.
The gist I get from what I've seen over the years is that they both exhibit character one associates with the Moog name, and the Voyager appears to have more sonic potential, but more people seem to appreciate the phatty's more, both in terms of character and ease of use: a better price/performance ratio. I always point out the Voyager tends to sound less bright and cleaner/smoother, while also having a deeper low-end. Its stability combined with use of the Highpass filter or high resonance make it sound downright digital at times. Being able to program it to the extent of doing things like modulating resonance and cutoff together for filter sweeps, in order to get more low-end, is nice. The external expansion capability is nothing to sneeze at, but you can do alot with just the internal mod matrix.

I sold it some time ago while unemployed and mostly now I just miss the envelope and portamento behavior! What the charlatans tend to call "musical", whatever that means. Very useful for leads anyway. Too bad the Model D excelled at leads in some small part due to how it could cut through a mix. Trying to do the same with the Voyager is a hopeless task.

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Re: Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby Bitexion » Wed May 07, 2014 11:58 pm

Doesnt a Voyager cost 3 times more than a Phatty though? So they're kind of not comparable anyway..
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Re: Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby Automatic Gainsay » Thu May 08, 2014 12:08 am

My experience with the Little Phatty is that it has a very distinctive character of sound, and that character is somewhat pervasive in it.
The Voyager, on the other hand, is powerful... but seems to lack any sort of general character except that defined by function.

The Phatty seems to have a sort of tone, the Voyager does not.

That being said, the Voyager is a bazillion times more powerful and flexible than the Phatty... and if you don't like the Phatty tone, you're not going to like the Phatty.
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Re: Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby Bitexion » Thu May 08, 2014 12:12 am

Automatic Gainsay wrote:

That being said, the Voyager is a bazillion times more powerful and flexible than the Phatty... and if you don't like the Phatty tone, you're not going to like the Phatty.


Nuff said there 8-)
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Re: Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby meatballfulton » Thu May 08, 2014 12:54 am

I had the Slim, now have a Voyager RME.

The plusses of the Voyager are the many extra features: better/more mod routings, the 3rd VCO which can be used as a second LFO, the second filter...no other Moog has a HPF...and it responds to aftertouch.

The plusses of the Phatty are way lower price (RME cost me 3x what Phatty did) and (seriously) the interface. If you use presets (don't admit it to anyone, OK?) the LED rings around the knobs give great visual feedback when you want to tweak a preset (Voyager knobs have no visual relationship to the current patch settings).

I'm no tone nazi, they both sound like Moogs to me, Voyager just has a wider palette.
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Re: Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby Automatic Gainsay » Thu May 08, 2014 1:24 am

meatballfulton wrote:I'm no tone nazi, they both sound like Moogs to me, Voyager just has a wider palette.


Well, I'm not the first to say that a Phatty has a specific tone.
Both sound like modern Moogs to me. But neither sound like vintage Moogs to me.

Yes, I am a Tone Nazi.

But if you're not into tone... why waste your time with analog at all?
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Re: Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby phesago » Thu May 08, 2014 1:58 am

I own both


Get both


Theyre different, and both INF capable in their own right. I love them both so very very much. (i have 3 voyagers and 2 phattys right now).


They both have full midi specs, which trumps alot of "better" vintage stuff. If only the pro1, model d and SEM had full midi specs. Anyway.....
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Re: Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby meatballfulton » Thu May 08, 2014 12:34 pm

Automatic Gainsay wrote:But if you're not into tone... why waste your time with analog at all?


I bought a synthesizer and an arpeggiator and thew my computer out the window because I want to make something real.
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Re: Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby ryryoftokyo » Thu May 08, 2014 1:13 pm

meatballfulton wrote:
Automatic Gainsay wrote:But if you're not into tone... why waste your time with analog at all?


I bought a synthesizer and an arpeggiator and thew my computer out the window because I want to make something real.


How's that Yaz record coming along?
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Re: Moog Voyager vs slim phatty

Postby meatballfulton » Thu May 08, 2014 5:39 pm

ryryoftokyo wrote:How's that Yaz record coming along?


Alison Moyet is stopping by this week to overdub her vocals.
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