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Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby Stab Frenzy » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:50 am

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This just got announced, I guess we should have a thread for it.

http://www.rolandcorp.com.au/products/details/1339
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby pflosi » Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:01 pm

Finally! Looks really neat. Like a modern KMS30 :headbang:
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby monolith » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:21 pm

Very nice!
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby StepLogik » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:01 pm

pflosi wrote:Finally! Looks really neat. Like a modern KMS30 :headbang:


I was about to post the same thing :D KMS-30 with an Internal clock in place of the largely obsolete FSK tape sync.

If the new roland box keeps time well it would be a nice addition to the rig. I would have liked a dedicated knob for shuffle amount but you can't have it all...
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby Z » Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:11 pm

$600, though!

You can buy a used MPU-101 and SBX-10 for that price and control more gear.
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby pflosi » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:07 pm

:shock: didn't see that, rather much indeed. My KMS30 was 50$... I hope the internal clock is rock solid at that price tag.
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby Syn303 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:28 pm

Overpriced imo. If it was £199 i would consider it.

However... will this be tight like my Sync Gen II Pro, or just sloppy being fed midi clock from a pc ?
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby Stab Frenzy » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:04 am

That's AU$600, probably more like US$400.
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby Sir Ruff » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:07 am

Looks very useful, but why include the Sync48 option? Aside from Korg's three, not very good drum machines, does anything else in the world use the 48ppq? I guess I shouldn't complain, but it just seems like an odd inclusion in this day and age, especially given its an obsolete sync type from another manufacturer.
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby Stab Frenzy » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:33 am

For running machines at double speed?
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby pflosi » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:47 am

Syn303 wrote:However... will this be tight like my Sync Gen II Pro, or just sloppy being fed midi clock from a pc ?


I very much doubt that Roland has managed to solve the OS based problems of midi sync via USB... I fear that using audio outs (like Innerclock, Expert Sleepers or the ACME) is the only solution to that... The question is though whether the internal clock will be solid or not on the SBX1... Anyways it sure will be solid after a Sync Gen Pro...

Sir Ruff wrote:Looks very useful, but why include the Sync48 option? Aside from Korg's three, not very good drum machines, does anything else in the world use the 48ppq? I guess I shouldn't complain, but it just seems like an odd inclusion in this day and age, especially given its an obsolete sync type from another manufacturer.


There's also some "pre-dinsync" sequencers and drummachines (Linndrum, DMX, Zyklus MPS1, etc.), usually not with a din plug though (easy enough to solder a breakout cable). Also some modules are noticeably tighter when clocked faster (e.g. Pamela's Workout).
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby madmarkmagee » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:12 am

Yea that 600 dollars is AUD and is a recommended retail price. It will be a lot cheaper in most other countries and obviously things can always be found for considerably less then their rrp.
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby Z » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:06 pm

According to the Aussie Roland site, the TR-8's suggested selling price is 649 AUD which, according to XE.com is $602 USD. TR-8s are selling New here in the States for $499 (less if you know how to shop). Given this model, the SBX-1's suggested selling price of 599 AUD ($556 USD), then the street price for the SBX-1 will be around $495 USD. Still quite a bit of money for what it actually does.

pflosi wrote:There's also some "pre-dinsync" sequencers and drummachines (Linndrum, DMX, Zyklus MPS1, etc.), usually not with a din plug though (easy enough to solder a breakout cable).


Zyklus MPS is MIDI as it was produced in the late 80s when everything had moved to MIDI. Although, it does have 1/4" jacks for Sync In and Out, not sure of the resolution
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby pflosi » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:24 pm

The resolution of the sync in / out is 24, 48 or 96 ppqn and I sync it that way, as I don't want to "merge" my master midi clock with the master midi keyboard (would create quite nasty midi feedback loops actually).

Oh well, shouldn't have said "pre-dinsync" I suppose :lol:
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Re: Roland sbx-1 sync box

Postby Z » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:40 pm

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