meatballfulton wrote:I've owned the Perfourmer and while it can be used as a 4-voice analog polysynth that is not it's strength...having individual knobs for each voice is a royal PITA if tweaking knobs during performance is what you're after.
ninja6485 wrote:did you check out the synth finder section of the main site, and then search for stuff on ebay to get an idea of what it costs? also, isn't there a thread going on right now about the best cheap synth? check it out. good info in that thread. i'm having a hard time imagining a situation where a given instrument would only be good enough if it had exactly all of those criteria, unless this is just like a fun hypothetical thing. ideally, you would probably be the most satisfied with a good virtual analog. i've never wished that my virtual analogs were analog. otherwise, meatball futon's got the right idea
dhollmusik wrote:after using many knobless DCO synths (Microwave, Wavestation, Matrix, DW-8000, JX-3P, DX7
Psy_Free wrote:Ah yes, those well known DCO synths, Microwave, Wavestation, DW-8000 & DX7
Stab Frenzy wrote:So... you don't know what DCOs are but you're against them?
- knobs or sliders to control live parameters (only having one or two which you can assign will not do, the device has to be live-friendly, needing only a midi-keyboard to play)...
...What will not be considered:
- synth modules that require a second device to control the sound parameters (like a BCR2000) or where they have a display which requires lots of button-clicking to access basic parameters like ADSR and LFO speed (like a Matrix 6R or Roland MKS)
Stab Frenzy wrote:The Tetra sounds really good but you've got eight parameters available to you and if you want to tweak anything else you need to reassign one of the four assignable encoders to it via scrolling another encoder, and then once you've done that you need to scroll again to get it back to where it was before. If you're using a midi controller with assignable controls you can get a few more out of it, but you specified no external devices for controlling. It's also well over $500.
Stab Frenzy wrote:The perfourmer isn't so much a polysynth as four monosynths which can be assigned to play together polyphonically. For it to work like a polysynth you'd need to have all four voices set up exactly the same and then you wouldn't be able to tweak the knobs unless you could tweak all four the exact same amount at the exact same time. The filter cutoff can be tweaked via midi but what's the point in having all those knobs if you can't use them.
If you wanted to use the perfourmer as four monosynths or one monosynth that you tweaked and a three-voice polysynth that you didn't then I'd choose that, but as a tweakable polysynth it won't do the job. Also I doubt you'll find one for under $500, under $1000 would be lucky.
Stab Frenzy wrote:So basically you end up with zero candidates. The closest thing I can think of would be a cut-down Juno 106 with the keyboard removed, I've seen them a couple of times in the past but I'm not sure if that would come in under your $500 limit. To find something which matches your criteria you're going to have to change them a bit, either more expensive, bigger, digital or with less control. I imagine the reason you haven't gotten any responses on the other sites you've tried is because you're asking the impossible.
Stab Frenzy wrote:Dave Smith isn't in Prepal because the company didn't exist the last time Prepal was updated. Prepal hasn't been updated for around 8-10 years, it's not in any way accurate.
Stab Frenzy wrote:€≠$, so saying 500 of your local currency is gonna get you a whole lot of different responses from different parts of the world. You can't get much for ¥500 for example. If you meant Euros you should have just said so.
Stab Frenzy wrote:The reason the gap is there is because knobs cost money, analogue components cost money (which adds up quickly with polyphony) and most people don't know about or care to pay the difference between an analogue synth and a Microkorg. Considering there isn't even anything available second-hand for that price with those specs no company has any hope of doing it new and making any money from it. If you want something like that it costs what the P08 rack costs, it can't be done for less.
dhollmusik wrote:So you sold your Perfourmer?
And what do you mean by:meatballfulton wrote:having individual knobs for each voice is a royal PITA if tweaking knobs during performance is what you're after.
I thought that would be great for live to have so much individual per-knob control.
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