Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

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Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby molson » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:41 pm

I recently acquired a Yamaha CS60. I posted a quick preset demo video in the listening lounge. Tomorrow I am taking it to a local tech who used to service these for Yamaha back in the day to have the oscillators tuned. Besides the oscillator tuning I went through every control parameter in the manual and it seems to be 100% functional. The case is a bit scuffed and it is missing the legs, but the synth itself is in great condition, all sliders and switches are smooth and no missing caps, covers etc.. The aftertouch and ribbon controller work perfectly.

I have been doing a as much research as I can on it over the last couple of days and am really enjoying learning more about it and loving the sounds it is capable of producing. However, after I get it tuned and have some more time to enjoy it, I will likely be unable to justify keeping it as synths and keys are a fourth instrument for me and I mainly use them for recording as I am not a keys player or keys performer. Plus I could use the proceeds for more practical applications in my small project studio.

All I can find online for recent sales range between $2600 - $4,000. Not really sure how to go about pricing something like this when I do decide to sell it? Any insight or advice would be much appreciated!

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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby synthparts » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:57 am

I've bought 3 CS60s in the last couple years. All were within $1500-2500. $4k sounds like the crazy ebay synth dealer markup price...
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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby molson » Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:24 am

synthparts wrote:I've bought 3 CS60s in the last couple years. All were within $1500-2500. $4k sounds like the crazy ebay synth dealer markup price...


Yeah, that sounds more reasonable to me. I just meant $4,000 as the top of the range. I saw some guy had sold one Ebay a couple of months back for $2,660 + shipping, but there was also one on the UK Ebay that went for more like $3,600.

It's just surprises me, because as I was researching the CS60 before and after purchase I ran into a lot of forum threads etc.. from 2008-2009 and they were selling for more around $1,000-$1,500. I guess that is five years ago, but still, are they really that rare?
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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby molson » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:23 am

It has such a great sound! Not sure I will be able to part with it. I have had several synths over the past 6 months, bass station ii, microbrute, ion, nord lead 2x, volca keys, mopho x4, but the CS60 just has a sound character that none of those had. Plus the keybed feel is a cut above.
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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby ppg_wavecomputer » Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:17 am

Of all the other synthesisers you have listed, the CS60 is the only *instrument* -- the rest is toys. Nice-sounding, fun toys.

Not sure about the price, though -- since this is the closest most people will ever get to owning and playing a CS80, prices have gone through the roof (same thing with the CS50). Over here in Europe, I´d probably pay up to 3,000 Euros for one in good shape, complete with lid, pedals, music rest, and stand (and with no MIDI hacked into it!). 2,500 Euros should be normal, give or take 15%.

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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby tomorrowstops » Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:05 pm

Don't sell it!

As a new owner of a CS-50, I know exactly what you're experiencing right now. Its an synth that's making you stop and say 'huh, I didn't think THIS was possible'

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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby fh991586 » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:52 pm

Since you got it recently, I guess you remember how much you paid for it? Then add the money for the tech who did the service on it, and another $50 for gas/hauling it around.

That's the minimal value. For you.
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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby molson » Sat Aug 02, 2014 1:37 pm

fh991586 wrote:Since you got it recently, I guess you remember how much you paid for it? Then add the money for the tech who did the service on it, and another $50 for gas/hauling it around.

That's the minimal value. For you.


Probably a good way too look at it. Thanks for the feedback and insights!
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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby molson » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:07 pm

ppg_wavecomputer wrote:Of all the other synthesisers you have listed, the CS60 is the only *instrument* -- the rest is toys. Nice-sounding, fun toys.
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I think you might be on to something Stephen, it's physical presence alone makes it feel more substantial. My poor cheap x-style stand is groaning under the load.
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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby Synthacon » Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:20 pm

Just one bit of advice…

If you do go for the sale option. I would try stay away from eBay for two reasons.

The percentage they take from you soon strips the price. Secondly, if you are not VERY experienced in packing something of that size and weight you could end up have a damaged and broken unit turn up with your buyer, this would then cause issues. I know you can insure your shipments but actually making a claim can prove troublesome with synths, especially vintage units.

A "local" sale or at least one where you or your buyer can collect or deliver and pay cash would be a better solution.
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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby molson » Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:58 pm

Synthacon wrote:Just one bit of advice…

If you do go for the sale option. I would try stay away from eBay for two reasons.

The percentage they take from you soon strips the price. Secondly, if you are not VERY experienced in packing something of that size and weight you could end up have a damaged and broken unit turn up with your buyer, this would then cause issues. I know you can insure your shipments but actually making a claim can prove troublesome with synths, especially vintage units.

A "local" sale or at least one where you or your buyer can collect or deliver and pay cash would be a better solution.


I completely agree. I have no plans of shipping this item. I have shipped 70 pound guitar amps etc.. and it is just not worth the effort, worry, and backache. I have been selling on Ebay for 12 years and have just seen fees and user issues increase over time. Many times I will just list something on Ebay so it can be seen by a wider audience and then make it clear the item is for sale locally, usually one can follow the digital bread crumbs.
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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby Jaytee » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:17 pm

ppg_wavecomputer wrote:Of all the other synthesisers you have listed, the CS60 is the only *instrument* -- the rest is toys. Nice-sounding, fun toys.


wtf? A monotron is a toy. The synths he listed are all great instruments.
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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby shaft9000 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:19 pm

i believe he's referring to the robustness of build, as well as playability, of which the CS-60 is in another league compared to all those. OK, the 2x may also be viable in another 30+ years, but really, do you think any of the rest of those will last nearly that long?
I can speak from experience, being a CS-60 owner and having an Ultranova who's keyboard went south in less than a year. My alesis micron has multiple issues as well.
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I acquired mine from a pal about 4 years ago with full stand&bag for 2500USD (crate shipped!) in time-capsule condition. I've seen some sell for over $3k that were in much less pristine shape since then. I'd get 'er tuned and put it up for 3000 or so to start and see what bites.
these are getting quite rare, as most have already been gutted for CS-80 spare parts.
If you MUST ship it use a crate. don't chance it with cardboard.

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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby molson » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:09 pm

shaft9000 wrote: I'd get 'er tuned and put it up for 3000 or so to start and see what bites.
these are getting quite rare, as most have already been gutted for CS-80 spare parts.


That's basically the plan, it is in the process of being tuned right now. I plan to start it high and drop it until someone bites. I've already decided I am not going to ship it. I did get some picks up the insides at the techs shop, very clean inside which is a +!

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Re: Yamaha CS60 Value 2014?

Postby fh991586 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:09 pm

So why did you buy it in the first place? Only to flip it?
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