Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software?

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How do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software?

Poll ended at Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:56 am

It hurts the software developers and deprives them of hard earned cash. so, NO. I purchase it legitimately.
17
61%
FREE SOFTWARE!?!?! I'm IN!
1
4%
I don't like pirating things, but I do because I simply don't realistically have the money to purchase software.
1
4%
I do like pirating software, as it is wayyy overpriced and putting a price on self-expression is morally wrong.
0
No votes
I don't use software period, I'M OLD SKOOL!
1
4%
I use freeware.
0
No votes
I do like pirating software because it gives me a chance to fully evaluate it before deciding whether or not to purchase it
8
29%
 
Total votes : 28

Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby skunk3 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:21 pm

Kinda funny how at one point in time I had a pirated copy of damn near every bit of software that was available at the time, yet today I am 99% hardware-based. Most of the time when I do record, it's straight to tape. I guess that having access to all of that software for free kinda ruined its value for me. All software did for me was reinforce the fact that software isn't for me.
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby sequentialsoftshock » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:21 am

skunk3 wrote:. I guess that having access to all of that software for free kinda ruined its value for me.


This is a very good point that has been made on articles discouraging people, especially those new to the game, because it doesn't really expand your knowledge of working only with the tools that you are given. Being limited to only what you can afford really helps you explore every bit of it and how to utilize it in the way you need.
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby ninja6485 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:56 am

In some ways, yes, but then you have something like NI Komplete, which shoves practically every tool they make right in your face all at once. There's also the problem that people begin with varying resources. Being limited to what you can afford can mean very different things depending on how much you have to spend! So it can be hard to trace the root of the 'have too much, need limits' problem to the pirating itself. Really, it's a problem with the individual's fractured attention. Even hardware people aren't free from this problem. How many times do we see people in threads talking about how they weren't productive with the room full of gear that they collected, but then they scaled it back to one or two items, and now they're cranking out tunes? 8-) Hardware, software, sample libraries. It happens with them all. Balma probably has this problem with porn samples... :wink2: :empathy: :drinks:
This looks like a psychotropic reaction. No wonder it's so popular...
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby Jaytee » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:30 am

I tend toward being anti-piracy with regards to DAWs. There are just so many free and low-cost recording solutions out there that I can't really see any justification for stealing the expensive stuff.
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby CS_TBL » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:47 am

Jaytee wrote:I tend toward being anti-piracy with regards to DAWs. There are just so many free and low-cost recording solutions out there that I can't really see any justification for stealing the expensive stuff.


I would think the Steinbergs of this world would rather want you to use a cracked Cubase than a random freeware DAW. Because with a cracked Cubase, you'll grow to like it, making the chance bigger that you'll eventually want to buy it.
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby meatballfulton » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:31 pm

Steinberg is just plain weird...you need a dongle just to run the Cubase demo (they suggest borrowing one from your local dealer!) :---)

Meanwhile, the Reaper "demo" runs forever with nothing more than a nag screen if you don't buy =D>
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby CS_TBL » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:16 pm

meatballfulton wrote:Steinberg is just plain weird...you need a dongle just to run the Cubase demo (they suggest borrowing one from your local dealer!) :---)


Afaik there's a light version which works for a limited time, only requiring an email-address (or iirc a Steinberg account, more specifically). I know, because Steinberg visited the shop I work for (demo/workshop) and handed out free CD's with some testversion of Cubase (and pens 'n mouse pads for that matter). In theory, if you have multiple CD's, you could install it multiple times, only requiring a new emai -account.

Anyway, I'd forget about test versions anyway. This is how the world works today: you use a cracked version to see how it works, and if you like it (and/or like the company), you'll buy it eventually. Probably not quite according to the book, but then again.. what is?
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby Jaytee » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:15 pm

CS_TBL wrote:
Jaytee wrote:I tend toward being anti-piracy with regards to DAWs. There are just so many free and low-cost recording solutions out there that I can't really see any justification for stealing the expensive stuff.


I would think the Steinbergs of this world would rather want you to use a cracked Cubase than a random freeware DAW. Because with a cracked Cubase, you'll grow to like it, making the chance bigger that you'll eventually want to buy it.


If that were the case, why wouldn't they just release an official freeware version of their software for the sake of garnering userbase?
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby meatballfulton » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:41 pm

Jaytee wrote:If that were the case, why wouldn't they just release an official freeware version of their software for the sake of garnering userbase?


Cubase LE and Cubase AI are often bundled with hardware, as is Ableton Live Lite. I guess the reason they don't give these away outright is that Cubase LE and AI are pretty much identical to Cubase Essentials ($100) and Live Lite is pretty much identical to Live Intro (also $100).

There are free downloadable versions of Acid and Studio One, though.
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby ninja6485 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:10 pm

I have like 3 or 4 of those disks hanging around. I prefer Cubase AI since it integrates with my N8. It seems like the audio world rains entry level DAWs. I bought a pair of shoes and it came with Cubase LE...

CS_TBL wrote:
Jaytee wrote:I tend toward being anti-piracy with regards to DAWs. There are just so many free and low-cost recording solutions out there that I can't really see any justification for stealing the expensive stuff.


I would think the Steinbergs of this world would rather want you to use a cracked Cubase than a random freeware DAW. Because with a cracked Cubase, you'll grow to like it, making the chance bigger that you'll eventually want to buy it.
This! :agree:
This looks like a psychotropic reaction. No wonder it's so popular...
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby Ashe37 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:51 am

ninja6485 wrote:I have like 3 or 4 of those disks hanging around. I prefer Cubase AI since it integrates with my N8. It seems like the audio world rains entry level DAWs. I bought a pair of shoes and it came with Cubase LE...


Quote from a trade show several years ago

"I bought a pack of cigarettes and it came with a copy of Premiere."

this is back when editing with premiere was considered a joke... and even the cheapest video capture hardware came with Premiere (often full copies)
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby meatballfulton » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:22 pm

Yep, I've got a small pile of Cubase AI and Ableton Lite installer discs too.
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Re: Poll: how do you feel about pirated/cracked DAW software

Postby mute » Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:39 pm

meatballfulton wrote:Yep, I've got a small pile of Cubase AI and Ableton Lite installer discs too.


The modern day music software equivalent of AOL install CDs. I have 15-20 of each laying around from over the past 2-3 years. Magazines, pedals, h/w, s/w... they come with pretty much everything nowadays and often you can even find stacks of them sitting out on the counter @ shops like guitarcenter...esp. Live Lite.
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