yamaha su700, rs7000 differences

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yamaha su700, rs7000 differences

Postby bandreject » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:30 pm

Both units are samplers with sequencer. But rs7000 is about 3 times more expensive. What are the main differences?
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Postby yek » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:10 pm

the rs7000 is more then 3x more complicated of a sequencer. 6-10?
if it's anything like it's younger brother, the rm,1x, it's complicated.
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Postby crystalmsc » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:14 am

the RS got a nice AWM2 synth engine, it's basically more of a synth with some sampling while the SU are a straight sampling box.
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Postby bandreject » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:01 am

So, rs7000 is rm1x+su700? What is the awm2?
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Postby Roberto » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:47 am

AWM2 is Yamaha's S+S synth engine. The RM1x had one and the RS7000 had a bigger version plus sampling, SCSI, Smart Card storage, better in's and outs and better expandability.

I love my RM1x but would love an RS7000. The SU range (SU-10, SU200 and SU700) were primarily sample boxes with looping and simple sequencing features, the SU700 being the daddy of them all. Incorporation of ribbon controllers and external signal processing were also very useful. The RM1x and RS7000 used the same powerful, well respected sequencer engine found in the QY700.

Yamaha still have plenty of info available...

http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/rs7000/index.html

http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/rm1x/index.html

http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/qy700/index.html

http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/su700/index.html

http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/su200/index.html

http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/su10/index.html
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Postby n3wt15 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:16 pm

i loved my rs7k to death, but unfortunatly had to sell it off due to money issues

i used to own a rm1x, had it for years and loved it, here are the main differences in the rs7k that i liked
1.an added sampler
2.same sounds, but much better quality
3.i got the aieb2 expansion, which gives you 8 outs for seperate mixing (COMES IN REALLY HANDY!)
4.Better, and more on the effects section
5. the remix button, that changes your beats around on the fly


the things that really bothered me in the jump from the rm1x to the rs
1. The RS7k does NOT save your songs internally like the rm1x, it saves everything to smart cards and then has to be loaded in everytime you turn the machine on.....i know this doesnt bother some people, but I feel as if the older model DID save everything internally, then there should be no reason to take a back step and have the newer models NOT

2.its size compared to the rm1x

i think thats it

its an awesome unit though
i never played with an su700 but from what im told the sampler in the rs was better, and more stable
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Postby AudiosEnvy » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:46 pm

I started on an Rm1x long long ago then uped to the Rs7k when it was released. I really miss them both. They are complicated but once you get your head around the way Yamaha works, it becomes an amazing hardware sequencer with a half-decent ROMpler engine attached. The sampler in the Rs7 doesn't sound great but is definitely usable.

I am thinking of picking up an Rm1x again just for use on the road.
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Postby Hugo76 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:58 am

I've had the rm1x since it came out, and just recently bought the rs7000. I can't believe I didn't buy it sooner! The rm1x was never the right box for me; I never figured out the sequencer adequately, and the sounds were not inspiring at all.
I did however manage to crank out some very cool sounds out of it, but due to the lack of sampling, no resources were left after maybe as few as 3 tracks.

The rs7000 solves many of the rm1x's problems, and finally I realise the sequencer is actually very nice (still having some problems with certain issues, though). Sound quality is very nice and clean, although sound designing is rather challenging as it still has the 1 element voice architecture from the rm1x.

With a couple of improvements in the sampler section, I would have no complains about this unit - first and foremost is the lack of loop crossfade a rather frustrating omission. With this function onboard, the unit would truly be self-contained.

All in all I recommend you get the rs7000 instead of the rm1x.
The sound is much clearer (it can be really muffled on the rm1x), and the implementation of resampling is excellent.
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