Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

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Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

Postby gmeredith » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:42 am

I have an Esi2000 sampler, which is basically a modernised version of the Esi32.
My drummer in the band is looking at an Esi32 for sale on the 'bay, local (Australian). It has 32MB RAM, SCSI, internal 1.2G hard drive and SPDIF board options installed.

Will the Esi32 directly load and place Esi2000 banks exactly as the Esi2000 has them, or is there an incompatibility that will interfere with them being loaded and laid out exactly as in the 2000? My 2000 has the maxed out 128MB RAM and turbo option board installed, although I haven't assigned any samples in my banks to use it at the moment. They are also under 32MB in size. Both my machine and the Esi32 have OS ver. 3.02 installed.

Will my banks work ok in it, or does it save to a different format, and also, the other way around (Esi32 to Esi2000)?

Cheers, Graham
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Re: Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

Postby madtheory » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:17 am

From the spec you've given, yes, 100% compatible. Same machine apart from polyphony and memory restrictions.

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Re: Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

Postby baschyn » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:49 pm

Like Mad said yes. I own both that are the Turbo versions. I was making Zip disks for a pal (owns a 4000) and call me crazy, the ESI 32 sounded "warmer". The effects were off on both units as well. I know E-MU were always changing processors in the sampler lines. Not important, just a geek moment. Enjoy and look into Chicken Systems too.
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Re: Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

Postby gmeredith » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:58 pm

Wow, guys, thanks for the info, that's great news.

So, does the ESi32 actually have effects in it already, or does it also have an optional "turbo" board like the Esi2000?
The Esi32 on ebay has the optional spdif board installed, but looking at its back panel seems to show it already has an extra set of auxilliary outputs as standard equipment, which were an option that only came with the turbo board for the Esi2000 (I thought?)

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Re: Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

Postby baschyn » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:42 am

Yes, that unit has effects. If it has S/PDIF, the effects are on that unit as well. It's all on the same "upgrade" from E-MU. Zip drives in the ESI's are a mess. Stick with an external. I put a 9 gig card reader in my ESI's.
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Re: Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

Postby gmeredith » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:30 am

Cool! Then it's a fully decked out Esi32 by the sounds of it! I hope it stays at a decent price - I'll bid on it.

I agree with the zip drive stuff, although I seem to have had ok success with my Esi2000 and my 100MB zip drive. I stuck a card reader in mine anyway and haven't looked back, I'll do the same with this one if I win it, too. Then I can just go over my drummer's place to the Esi32 with a CF card in my pocket instead of carrying my gear over there and have to set up every time.

Cheers, Graham
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Re: Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

Postby kazper » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:01 pm

One other issue is that the ESI32 without the OS upgrades don't have some of the feature set of the ESI4000 and the repackaged ESI 2000.

I can't tell you what they are, just that there is some features that are not in older ESI-32 OS. I know that it was some of the added features found in the newer ESI samplers and they were used in there ESI 4000 formatted sample CD's.

As stated Tubo has Efex, but if my memory is correct it's implemented funny, like you have to send to it our use a second set of outs for it to work.

Look more into it.

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Re: Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

Postby madtheory » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:39 pm

Ya, the routing is annoying. The main outs and effect outs are the same, but slightly out of phase. So you don't get as many outputs as you would expect. But you can do some cool things with the effects, like turning up the reverb decay to infinity, or setting delay to max feedback and then changing the delay time. I have more tips here:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Dec01/a ... ede0d5b1d7

The distortion algorithm is good, it's like diode clipping.
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Re: Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

Postby gmeredith » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:41 pm

Thanks everyone, that's good info! Luckily it has the lastest 3.02 version software. like mine. I think the older versions lacked some of the filters of the 3.02 version. At least this will have everything like that. 5 hours of bidding to go and I'm in the lead!

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Re: Esi-32: compatible with Esi2000?

Postby gmeredith » Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:52 am

Ok, I won it!

AU$228, which is a bit on the expensive side - but they're scarce in australia here, and it works out to be the same price as if I bought one from OS, once international shipping is added and currency conversion etc.

It DID actually have the turbo board installed as well, so that's a nice bonus. The backlight is a bit sick though. Other than that, it seems to be working OK. Came modded with an internal 2.1g hard drive loaded up with some commercial sample CD's. Sounding and working well. I hooked it up to my ESi2000 and spent the morning shuffling all the samples from it over to mine and vice versa. Nice pair!

I'll start a thread in the HELP section about the backlight.

Cheers, Graham
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