ESi2000/4000 individual preset volumes??

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ESi2000/4000 individual preset volumes??

Postby gmeredith » Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:53 am

Does anyone know if there is a quick and easy way to adjust the overall volume of a single preset without disturbing the relative VCA level settings of the samples within it? I want one of my presets to be louder than the others but the samples in it are at max volume already, so it means I have to turn the other presets volumes DOWN to get the right volume perspectives between presets. But since each preset has numerous samples, each with their own different volume levels set in the VCA menu, I can't just do a blanket zone VCA level reduction as this will change the different VCA level settings of the samples for that preset.

Is there a master level setting for each preset that will keep the relative VCA level settings of the samples? The manual doesn't seem to allude to this. It's just going to be a pain in the arse having to go and adjust every samples VCA levels in the other 14 presets just because one preset is a bit too quiet. At the moment I have done a workaround and reprocessed and reloaded all of the samples in that quiet single bank by compressing/eq/overdrive the samples to get them how I want them, but if there is a quicker more elegant way of volume control I'd like to know about it.

Cheers, Graham
Casio: FZ1, CZ101, PG380, VZ10M, SK8, RAP10, DP1 drum kit, DH100, CDP200
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Re: ESi2000/4000 individual preset volumes??

Postby gmeredith » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:08 am

I still haven't found a way to set a preset volume, but I did find an obscure posting in the yahoo esi forums:

You can control volume with midi cc#10 (not 19) Also play with
using expression, (midi cc#11) for phrasing so cc#10 can be a master volume
for that part. Pan is cc#7 while were at it, and cc#91 is chorus, #93 is
Reverb. these are industry standard midi control #'s so they will work on
all instruments. When using multi-mode with your ESI, check the global
settings to confirm that global volume/pan are enabled....


So in this way, I guess I could put MIDI volume cc's in my sequencer at the start of each song. For all of the louder presets, I could have the sequencer turn down the ESi volume a bit, and when it comes to the song using the quieter preset, get it to turn up the volume just for that song. Not so bad as a workaround....

Cheers, graham
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Re: ESi2000/4000 individual preset volumes??

Postby nogginj » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:52 pm

dont the 2000's have 4 outputs by default, too?

Couldn't you just route the problem patches to the alt out and adjust them analog style with a mixer?
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Re: ESi2000/4000 individual preset volumes??

Postby gmeredith » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:56 pm

Yes, that's not a bad idea, hadn't thought of that :)
Thanks!

Cheers, Graham
Casio: FZ1, CZ101, PG380, VZ10M, SK8, RAP10, DP1 drum kit, DH100, CDP200
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Re: ESi2000/4000 individual preset volumes??

Postby nogginj » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:52 pm

Hey glad to help!
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