Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

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Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby iamrcb » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:52 pm

I'm consindering sell my hardware setup consisting of a Juno-6, JP8000, Novation DrumStation and Korg KP-1 and replacing the lot with some SoftSynths and some nice controllers.

I've tried to use my JP-8000 as a midi controller as it has over 50 controllers, but it seems an awful waste of a nice bit of kit. Should I be burnt at the stake for this?

I'm considering a nice keyboard controller with a few of those korg nano controllers. Any suggestions (£200 max)

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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby Bitexion » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:00 pm

Why a waste? No midi controllers have that many knobs anyway. And you still have the power of the JP8000 to use in your music.
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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby iamrcb » Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:48 pm

Good point.

its worth over £300 so i'm thinking whether there is a better controller out there
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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby tom Cadillac » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:38 pm

The JP8000's keyboard is not its strongest point and I think you'll get some much nicer midi keyboards with aftertouch and square touch pads, better key action and whatnot for much less than the JP8000 costs, BUT it has a sound of its own that I think you'll find hard to replace, so I'd hang on for a bit if you don't want to upgrade to a better keyboard and see if you really can bear to part with it.
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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby mcomeg » Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:20 pm

Obviously this is just one guy's opinion, but I'd probably keep the hardware. You have a enviable setup right now. I find that hardware is far more inspiring for producing music than software. Plus, you don't have to deal with as many strange quirks from your computer. I've got the Korg Legacy collection and Auturia CS-80 softsynths on my computer, but have never used a sound from them on my tracks. I mean, do you really want to get rid of a classic Juno?
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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby Bitexion » Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:24 pm

No matter what, it is YOU who has to make the music, no matter how much and cool vintage gear you may have, music don't make itself..so it's basically to learn you gear well and stop wanting to buy more and more all the time..the GAS is a killer for us synthesists.
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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby Phollop Willing PA » Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:18 pm

I like the JP 8000 a lot. But it doesn't have a midi thru...
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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby iamrcb » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:11 pm

I do not consider myself a musician. I have not written a decent song for years. BUT I do enjoy the whole sound designing thing. I enjoy making an interesting racket for an hour or two a week

I've slowly traded my way up through ebay over 10 years from a SH1000 up to my current set up. Its funny how old, but good hardware does not lose value if you buy at the right price.

I've just been trying out Rez (free softsynth) combined with a SH101 emulator and was very impressed by the sound, but without a row of immediate controllers its definitely no fun.
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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby Suburban Bather » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:37 pm

If you know for sure that you don't want to keep your JP-8000 and need a controller with plenty of knobs, I'd consider the Behringer BCR2000 and a cheap midi keys only controller to go with it. You will still have money left over from what you can get for selling the JP-8000.

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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby mome rath » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:05 pm

Suburban Bather wrote:You will still have money left over from what you can get for selling the JP-8000.



except you can barely give them away these days #-o
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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby iamrcb » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:46 pm

Not true. I sold mine on ebay this week for £475.

Now I have £475 burning a hole in my pocket! Do I go newer or older? or neither and get a load of USB MIDI controllers.....
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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby infrared72 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:16 am

Sorry if I'm spamming a month old thread, but I'm pretty new on these forums so I'm playing catch up on a lot of posts. I've been using my jp8000 as a midi controller for 4-5 years now, and it works really good. Controllers for me in the 37-49 key range seem to be best, although my jp8000 is a bit big for my ikea desk. I'm currently using my jp8000 with an Edirol UM880 midi thru box, Dell pc with Ableton Live 7, Echo Audio Gina 3g, Yamaha RM1x, and Korg TR Rack and it's working out really good for me.

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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby modorange » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:01 am

I apologize for MY getting on this topic even LATER than you did, infrared72.. But I was thinking about selling my Roland JP-8000 Unless I could think of a good use for it as a MIDI controller. I only have some archaic hardware analog synths that are non-midi, a Rhodes piano, but I am getting into Audio recording and may pickup a copy of Ableton. I am using Logic Express on my Macbook pro and have a Firepod. Can I just hook up the JP8000 into the Firepod and control the synths in the Logic? What about Ableton? How well does the JP8000 work for you using it? How well do the knobs and sliders work for programming softsynths?

Thanks.. Finding this topic on Google prevented me from having to start a new one! :wink:
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Re: Roland JP8000 as a MIDI controller. A waste?

Postby infrared72 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:11 am

Hi modorange,

I've been quite happy with the jp8000 controlling ableton. As far as controlling softsynths, there aren't any templates setup for all the parameters like a Novation Remote SL style controller. But all of the knobs and sliders do transmit midi, so you can assign the filter cutoff frequency and the resonance on the jp8k pretty easily to a software synth. Some software synths like BLUE (Rob Papen) have the ability to save controller setups. So if you configure the physical knob to the parameters/settings you tweak most often and save that config, it works pretty damn good. A good part of this depends upon the ability of the soft-synths you're using to save controller map setups. Even if they don't, it's really easy to do the mappings quickly in live.

I think with your Firepod, it should be pretty easy to get that tied in with Ableton with the audio and midi coming from your jp8k. I was getting kinda bored with my jp8000 since I've had it for nearly 10 years, but I did find that when I blended it with some soft synths (ImpOscar, Minimonsta, etc...) that it fits nicely in the mix within certain tracks. Also, there's a patch librarian available here:

http://www.borgstation.com/default.php? ... ojp=1&ro=1

With a decent selection of alternate sounds if you're looking for some new starting places for synth patches. I'm not a sound designer myself, but I find that alternate sounds provide a good starting place that I can tweak and dial in further what I'm trying to sound like. I hope this helps..

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Postby crystalmsc » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:19 pm

if a controller with a JP style interface needed, the x-station would allow deep editing from the interface and friendly software editor. plus it's got 2 midi out and keys with aftertouch. hell, a stick, ribbon and an 8 voices synth too. but with up to 3 oscs, usb audio/midi interface and a digital out which supposed to be more ideal for being a controller/interface.
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