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Got my ESI2000!

Postby gmeredith » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:56 am

It finally arrived the other day :D . In immaculate condition, looks like it's spent its time in a rich kid's bedroom all its life! It has the turbo kit installed and 128MB of RAM.

It came with 2 floppy disks of some factory demo samples showing off the turbo board capabilities, but other than that, I'll have to look for some or make my own. I got a 100MB SCSI ZIP drive and 3 brand new ZIP disks from my work place and hooked it all up, so I've now got myself a good entry-level setup at the moment. Eventually I'd like a SCSI to CF storage solution - this ZIP drive makes a racket!

Any tips/tricks with this machine that people know about? People doing interesting stuff?

Has anyone tried doing sample dumps via MIDI to load samples to it? I know it would be slow but I thought I'd try it.
I know that most people just put a SCSI card in their computer and do it that way but I don't have one yet so I was wondering if people had done MIDI dumps OK.

Cheers, graham
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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby D-Collector » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:51 pm

Congratulations on a cool piece of hardware, the E-mu samplers are great! :D

I just got an E-mu ESI-32 myself, 32 mb, SCSI cd-rom, manual, and the E-mu sample library volume 1-12, all in excellent condition. Everyone need a good sampler! :mrgreen:
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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby gcoudert » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:28 pm

MIDI sample dump is faaaaaar too slow, don't bother. Get a SCSI card for your PC. There is a little freeware programme called Esi-Win, which you'll find here: http://www.deepsonic.ch/deep/htm/esi_win.php I used it when I had my Esi-4000; it's brilliant.

Make sure you play around with the various filters. The digital tools (transform multiply) also produce some interesting results.

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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby gmeredith » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:49 am

Thanks for the tips! :D

I just installed ESIWin, and although I don't have a SCSI card yet, it has a facility to copy a wav file to floppy disk in ESI format so that I can then stick this floppy in the ESi2000 and load the sample from it. Nice! Even floppy loading is much quicker than MIDI sample dump, I agree! :lol:

So now I'm shuffling floppys back and forth and getting my sample library set up as a bank on the Esi. I can at least now save and load them to the ZIP drive from now on, so things are starting to happen for me. I gotta sniff around the net for some good piano wav file samples, or Akai s1000 sample sets, since the ESi will read them also, apparently. Any one know of some sites with some free piano samples?

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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby gcoudert » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:10 pm

What sort of piano samples are you after? Acoustic, CP70, Rhodes, Wurlitzer?
Why don't you try and pick up a cheap SCSI CD-ROM player - I got mine for under £10 on Ebay - and some EIIIX sample CDs.

"E-mu Classics Vol. 7" is a good start as it gives you the whole Proteus 1, 2 and 3 & Procussion module library (Pop, Orchestral, World, Drums), a decent Yamaha CP70 set, DX7 Rhodes, Wurlitzer (not brilliant), Hammond B3, the original Emulator vox sound, and hear this... Mellotron violins, flutes & choirs. The Proteus 1 bank includes a decent piano. There's also a Kawai 9' Grand.

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There is one on Ebay here: http://cgi.ebay.at/E-mu-Vol-7-EMU-CLASSICS-CD-Sample-Emu_W0QQitemZ130283294733QQihZ003QQcategoryZ46968QQcmdZViewItem

The Formula 4000 Analog Odyssey CD in native Esi format is very good too.

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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby gmeredith » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:10 am

Thanks for the heads-up! A CD drive is on my things-to get list, so I'll look at those samples.

In the meantime, I got a few free piano sounds from freesound:

There are some wav file sample packs of pianos, some sampled on every key:

http://www.freesound.org/searchText.php

I've uploaded them to the ESI via WinESI and floppy disk - just a few select notes of each type, and got a few workhorse banks of various simple acoustic pianos, and also electrics such as Rhodes, Wurlitzers and also clavicords. I'm having a great time with my new sampler!

I have come across one issue that I don't seem to be able to find in the manual, though. I want to put some key tracking on a single note piano sample that is stretched across the whole keyboard - meaning, I want to make the higher notes progressively get quieter and also shorter in decay, to give a more natural sound. I looked everywhere in the manual but couldn't find it. I found in the VCF menu the option to do filter cutoff related to key number but no VCA function to do it.

Does anyone know if this is possible, and if so, what am I missing?
I figure that you could get around it by making several zones with the same sample with lesser volumes and decay, but I was hoping for a quick function just for a single zone.

Anyone know how?

Cheers, graham
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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby madtheory » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:32 pm

Yes, you have to do it in zones. I have some more tips here:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Dec01/a ... ede0d5b1d7
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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby gcoudert » Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:59 pm

I'm not so sure... Now, I sold my Esi4000 over 2 years ago, but I think you can assign the keyboard to control the amplifier volume. I can't remember what the menu/section is called. On the Emulator 4, it's called "Cords". Controllers, perhaps? I can't remember whether you can assign the keyboard to ENV Decay though.
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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby gmeredith » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:57 pm

Well, I managed to get the key tracking happening but by doing the several zones way. I also didn't realise until later that you actually don't have to necessarily make extra zones. You can just go into the VCA section and play a key, then adjust its individual VCA level just for that key. Then hit the next key, adjust the level etc. So you actually have individual control for the VCA (as well as ADSR rates) for each and every key. So doing that I was able to gradually reduce the volume as I went up the keyboard, and also the decay rate. A bit fiddly but quite versatile I must say, especially if you wanted to do something tricky.

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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby madtheory » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:59 pm

Ya, that's the smart zone thing. That can get annoying ;)

The ESI is quite different to the Emulator series, much more limited modulation. No cords.
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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby Ashe37 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:01 pm

*Puts on computer geek hat*

Ok, when you say the Zip drive is making a racket... is it clicking constantly during operation?

If so, your drive may to be suffering from the infamous "Click of Death". Don't depend on it.
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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby gmeredith » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:35 pm

I didn't know about the "click of death" :shock:

No, it doesn't seem to be that sort of noise, just a steady whirring sound, kind of like a PC hard disk sound but a bit more nasal and irritating. It only bothers me when I'm trying to do stuff like listen carefully to loop end points. I might put it inside the cupboard that is underneath my keyboard bench, that way I can at least have the doors closed and minimise the noise.

I did notice in the ZIP drive manual that it says you can adjust the drive standby time if you use the ZIP tools program - at the moment its set to the default of 15 mins and then goes into sleep mode if not used. I might set it to 30 seconds or something.

I just found an old SCSI ISA card at work here and an old Pentium 1 computer being retired, I think I might put it together just for the ESi - then I can hook everything up and archive my samples and banks whenever I like, and do my loop editing on it and then just SCSI dump the sample to the ESi. Since I only have 3 100MB zip disks and about 2GB of samples to explore, this might be better :lol:

Cheers, graham
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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby Ashe37 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:39 am

yes I've had three zip drives click to death, hence why i avoid hardware that has them installed.
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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby gmeredith » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:11 am

I just found in a box of old computer junk here at work an external SCSI CDRW drive. Woot!! :D

This will now complete my setup once I get the old computer installed with the SCSI card.

I don't suppose it will work this way, but just in case, seeing that it is a CDRW drive, does anyone know if you can just plug this into the ESi directly and it will burn to CDR/RW when you save a bank? Or does the drive need burning software (ie. a computer) to burn a dump because the ESi won't "spool" the data in the way a CDRW drive needs to to get it to burn?

Cheers, graham
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Re: Got my ESI2000!

Postby Ashe37 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:52 am

The ESI has to know how to open, burn, and close the CD, so, no...
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