MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

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MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby anoteoftruth » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:36 am

ok.. so not a synth, but I didnt see anywhere for sampler shootouts, so hopefully I will go unpunished for putting this here.


but I'm curious to hear what owners of both would say about these 2?

Funnily enough I could grab both of them for roughly the same price right now... I've heard the 2500 was really buggy though.. not sure if there's some truth to that... I had a 1000 for a while but, didn't like it a ton, but am trying to give the MPC's a second chance as I'm in desperate need of a sampler.

Any opinions?
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby smoothcriminal » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:34 am

found this on mpc-forums.com, you can read more about this there
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=127807
the 2500 is EASILY the better choice between the two. The XL doesn't have enough "features," and while any seasoned producers can make due with 32meg ram and a low pass filter, the addition of Normalizing, resampling, eq, compressor, USB, and a much faster processor makes the 2500 the perfect upgrade for the 2000XL.

What did you not like about the 1K?
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby Stab Frenzy » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:43 am

Never heard anyone say the 2500 was buggy, mine certainly isn't.

But yeah, the 2500 wipes the floor with the 2000XL in every way. Only thing the XL has over a standard 2500 (without JJOS) is 300,000 note sequencer as opposed to 100,000. But you just get the free JJOS and that disappears, everything else about it is better, and it has the 10 outs as standard, memory card as standard, more RAM, HD option, CD option, etc. No contest.
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby kuroichi » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:51 pm

I got a 2000xl since at the time it was cheaper, but features and usability wise, I would go for the 2500...
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby anoteoftruth » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:53 pm

smoothcriminal wrote:found this on mpc-forums.com, you can read more about this there
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=127807

What did you not like about the 1K?



Mostly I just didn't like the size (felt cramped) and the pads were super stiff...

And at the time that I bought it, I don't think it quite worked with my setup, I was making much more "computer" music, doing most things in ableton with not much for hardware..... Now I have mostly hardware and want to get away from the computer... I'm hoping the MPC will help.

I was also looking at the new Octatrack, maybe use a pad controller to control that, but.... they seem like 2 different beasts altogether.
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby kuroichi » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:06 pm

I think they may end up quite different.

Ive been wondering if the octatrack will allow you to to make samplebanks within a track/across tracks, like how the mpc has samples across pad banks that you can record on different tracks, but I cant find any info on that, and things like polyphony etc...
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby anoteoftruth » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:31 pm

kuroichi wrote:I think they may end up quite different.

Ive been wondering if the octatrack will allow you to to make samplebanks within a track/across tracks, like how the mpc has samples across pad banks that you can record on different tracks, but I cant find any info on that, and things like polyphony etc...


I'm pretty sure the polyphony should be pretty good (high), etc... and I know it has 8 stereo tracks of sequencing... so there is that, I'm guessing there is a way you can assign things so that you can try and mimic the functionality of the MPC... but still they look very different...

Everyone is assuming there will be a lot of midi implementation with the OT, so that you could assign samples / slice points to pads on a midi controller... but I don't know how much fidgeting it would take to try and mimic the whole bank thing...



Anyways, back to topic...

I've heard various people on forums talk of some "tone" of the 2000XL that they liked over the 2500.. saying the 2500 sounded too "thin" or "clean".

I preferably like things that are not too steril, but I don't really understand terms like being said about samplers.. as samplers just kind of play whatever you put into them... is there any truth to those claims? Maybe sample resolution or filters or whatever make a difference?
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby wiss » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:16 pm

anoteoftruth wrote:Anyways, back to topic...

I've heard various people on forums talk of some "tone" of the 2000XL that they liked over the 2500.. saying the 2500 sounded too "thin" or "clean".

I preferably like things that are not too steril, but I don't really understand terms like being said about samplers.. as samplers just kind of play whatever you put into them... is there any truth to those claims? Maybe sample resolution or filters or whatever make a difference?


Yes, the 2500 samples are cleaner, you can bit crunch your samples in the 2500. The 4 midi outs is the main reason why I would select the 2500 or the 2000XL. Depending where you live, 2000XL are showing up on craigslist less for $350 and less on regular basis(sometimes for general purpose I want to grab one but I have 60 and 5000). If you look around (guitar center used section) you can get a 2500 for less than $700.
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby anoteoftruth » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:36 pm

We don't have GC in Canada..

The prices I've seen for 2000XL's are more like 1000$ or I did see one for 600$ plus shipping....

I see a MPC2500 for 750$ with free shipping, so thats why I'm wondering about this now...

If I could get a 2000XL for 350$, it would be no question.

Actually if I could get a 2500 for less than 700$ I'd already have one right now.
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby wiss » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:03 pm

"All we used was the explosion and the orchestra hit. The Fairlight was a $100,000 waste of space."
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby anoteoftruth » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:22 pm

looks like I missed out. Ebay doesn't show anything for that cheap that ships to Canada right now that I've seen.
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby novielo » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:31 pm

anoteoftruth wrote:looks like I missed out. Ebay doesn't show anything for that cheap that ships to Canada right now that I've seen.


keep in mind that ebay blocks some auction if you are looking at them from canada, i can see this at a regular basis when scroling the ebay/cl thread
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby Soundwave » Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:41 pm

JJOS2XL nuff said
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby Stab Frenzy » Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:03 am

anoteoftruth wrote:I've heard various people on forums talk of some "tone" of the 2000XL that they liked over the 2500.. saying the 2500 sounded too "thin" or "clean".

I preferably like things that are not too steril, but I don't really understand terms like being said about samplers.. as samplers just kind of play whatever you put into them... is there any truth to those claims? Maybe sample resolution or filters or whatever make a difference?

I remember when the 2000XL was the newest MPC people said the same thing about it, that it was thin and sterile compared to the 3k and 60. That was more of a valid complaint because they (especially the 60) had pretty coloured converters.

The 2000XL and 2500 are both pretty clean. You want stuff to come out coloured? Use samples that are coloured. Easy.
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Re: MPC 2000XL VS MPC 2500

Postby vinyl_junkie » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:26 pm

+1 I was just about to say the same thing, I find it hilarious how people say this shit..when the 2k came out no one liked it, XL was more popular for ovious reasons but every one was moaning about the sound..now new MPC's come out and it's the same thing hahah People just want a reason to moan about stuff and say how old skool they are :lol:

I have a 2000XL, it's my fave....I have over the years used a 60, 3000 and 2000 and the XL is my fave by far, if I wanted the sound of the 60 I would of got a S-900...
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