Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby visceralvoids » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:49 pm

I have read that the Gaia is actually inside the V-Synth and now the Jupiter-80.
That has more LFO options than JP engines.
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby Barely » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:26 pm

visceralvoids wrote:I have read that the Gaia is actually inside the V-Synth and now the Jupiter-80.
That has more LFO options than JP engines.


I've read that the Gaia is sample-based.
Which one is true? :)
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby visceralvoids » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:31 pm

Gaia is sample based. JP uses DSP processors.
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby samuraipizzacat29 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:38 pm

the real advantage of v-synth is not necessarily in the sampler aspect of it. it's in the fact that it's a re-synthesizer. You can take samples and make them be re-pitched across a keyboard without just speeding them up / slowing them down like samplers of old. there's a video on the v-synth's predecessor (name escapes me atm) on youtube that shows the capability of that machine as far as resynthesis.
If you're going to drop the coin on v-synth, I think v-synth xt is the best bet for features vs price. it's only a few dollars more than orig. v-synth and you could have two of them for the going rate of a gt :?
If you're just looking at it for the sake of sample mangling, there's a load of software that will do similar things (alchemy - $250, hgsounds astralis orgone $40, etc). If you're buying a v-synth, the major selling point is again the resynthesis. I consider everything else to just be integrated software that you get for free (sort of).
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby Stab Frenzy » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:20 am

I would say the major selling point for the v-synth is actually the incredible interface. The keybed is amazing to play, the aftertouch is really responsive, the real time controllers and how you map them to parameters is great. The fact that they're controlling a great synth engine is the icing on the cake.
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby ninja6485 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:57 am

Stab Frenzy wrote:I would say the major selling point for the v-synth is actually the incredible interface. The keybed is amazing to play, the aftertouch is really responsive, the real time controllers and how you map them to parameters is great. The fact that they're controlling a great synth engine is the icing on the cake.
really? i got a chance to play one at sam ash a little while ago, and i wasn't that impressed with the way the keyboard feels. i much prefer my virus TI. it did remind me of the fizmo keyboard in a good way though. a little chunky. might be a different story once you bring it home and get used to it i guess...
This looks like a psychotropic reaction. No wonder it's so popular...
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby Stab Frenzy » Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:09 am

I imagine most of the keyboards at Sam Ash that have had people hammering away at them for a few years don't feel as good as they originally did.
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby ninja6485 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:15 pm

actually it was a new arrival. my virus was a floor model fromthe very same sam ash to boot...
This looks like a psychotropic reaction. No wonder it's so popular...
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby Pro5 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:25 am

Pro5 wrote:thanks anyway, am not putting it down as said - am genuinely interested. I guess it's the kind of synth you have to own and see for yourself everything it can do before knowing if it's for you or not.


I posted this in 2011???? Seriously it seems like just last year I swear - sorry for the super-bump but had to come back and give my, now owner, opinion. Have had the V (original and best!!) since summer 2013 so just over 6 months I think.

Seems I was right, no YT demo can do this beast justice as it's SO personal to your own needs/uses. It can do almost anything if you have the samples around and the will to dive deep.

And yes it can actually emulate analog synths quite well, but then do way more with it - esp if you are using analog synth samples, maybe mixed with a bit of VA then resampled in and relayered. I had great success making jupiter-esque pads using nothing but alpha juno samples... also polysix, CZ-1 and SY77 sampled in became works of art once mangled or enhanced through the beautiful V-Synth engine.

And while the VA side of it may be less than amazing taken on it's own, when you factor in what comes after the oscs it can still do so much with them. It has made some of the most interesting sounds I've heard, that I know nobody else has and that's great. I look forward to putting more and more UNIQUE sounds into my future work. The machine oozes atmosphere and sounds classy when you program it well.

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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby Barely » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:14 am

:mrgreen:
Nice to still see some V-Love here! Had mine for 2 years now, love it do death. Everything you just said is true :)
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby the synthman » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:32 pm

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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby commodorejohn » Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:28 pm

Does virtual analog, you mean.
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby Jabberwalky » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:29 pm

Based on VSE's collective love of the Vsynth, they could slap some analog filters in it and make billions.
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby commodorejohn » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:49 pm

But they won't, because Roland just hates money and success.
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Re: Roland V-Synth vs Jupiter 8

Postby pflosi » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:19 am

They don't have to, it's amazing as it is. I'd rather have them fix the bugs instead of slapping analog in it.

That "analog" demo was everything I don't want to do with the V-Synth...
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