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Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby kris kirk » Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:35 am

Im pretty new to samplers and i was wondering if any one would have a suggestion for a basic sampler? Basically what i will be doing is making drum tracks on Logic and importing them into the sampler for playback in a live situation. the drum tracks are roughly 2 minutes to 3:30 minutes and there would be roughly 7 or 8 tracks. I was researching a little and the roland sp-404sx looks like it would be good for this. I also would like the extra space for some small samples here in there that arent as lengthy. would anyone have any other suggestions for samplers for this?

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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby cartesia » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:43 am

when you say 7-8 tracks, do you mean layers, or separate ones that you will play one after the other?

also do you need to be able to alter the BPM live?


The SP samplers dont do timestretching and theres not really any way to sync up loops, so it depends what you want to do with them.
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby Stab Frenzy » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:19 am

The new akai MPX8 looks like it'll do exactly that and will be even cheaper than a 404. Not out yet and who knows if features will change but if you don't need it right now it could be worth waiting for. 404 would be a good choice too.
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby kris kirk » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:20 pm

I mean different files pretty much. i make the drum structure on logic and save it as a wav. i just want to be able to play that wave back. 404sx would be good cause it has the card for a lot of space and storage and leads to other creative outlets later down the line i think. i dont need to alter bpm at all. its all set on the wav when i create it. ill look into the mpx8 as well! thanks for your replies guys!
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby 8bit9bot » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:40 am

couldnt you use a netbook for this? or even an ipad - i wouldnt want to mess with 2 minute long samples on anything besides a computer
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby Stab Frenzy » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:25 am

There's no way I'd recommend a netbook for straight playback of long samples, that's crazy talk. An SP-404SX or any sampler that's streaming samples straight off a flash card is a much much much better option.
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby tallowwaters » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:35 pm

Boss 404 will work fine for this. I know this because I've used it for the exact same thing.
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby blavatsky » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:04 pm

+1 404 or 404sx

Plus, they have really fun effects on them...not like studio grade but great for live or sample mangling.
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby 8bit9bot » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:28 am

Stab Frenzy wrote:There's no way I'd recommend a netbook for straight playback of long samples, that's crazy talk. An SP-404SX or any sampler that's streaming samples straight off a flash card is a much much much better option.


why do you think its crazy talk?
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby Stab Frenzy » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:04 am

Because netbooks are built to be a cheap, low power computer, not for working with audio.
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby Jaytee » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:06 pm

Are you needing to tweak things live or change up the order mid-set? Is this something that a CD player could do?
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby Ashe37 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:11 pm

Some bands use an iPod (Looks for tshear23)
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby piRoN » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:16 am

Stab Frenzy wrote:Because netbooks are built to be a cheap, low power computer, not for working with audio.

Yep. Netbooks are rubbish for audio. I was stuck with one as my only musical tool for a while during a renovation, and they just can't hack it. You might think a dual-core 1.66MHz could handle sample playback easily, but there's something about the way those machines are configured that just can't handle the constant throughput of audio.
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby Ashe37 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:22 am

piRoN wrote:
Stab Frenzy wrote:Because netbooks are built to be a cheap, low power computer, not for working with audio.

Yep. Netbooks are rubbish for audio. I was stuck with one as my only musical tool for a while during a renovation, and they just can't hack it. You might think a dual-core 1.66MHz could handle sample playback easily, but there's something about the way those machines are configured that just can't handle the constant throughput of audio.


Well, alot of them use Atom CPUs, which lack the out-of-order execution capabilities of 'real' CPUs. That along leaves long strings of instructions being executed one at a time and the CPU idling more than it should be... its a throwback to the 486/68040 days.
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Re: Need a Basic Sampler with Pretty Basic Features

Postby piRoN » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:20 am

Ah, interesting! I've never actually looked into the differences of the Atom architecture before, just marvelled at their inability to handle tasks that my 166MX could accomplish with ease.
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