Synthacon wrote:I think the JD800 is very poor. Apart from the sliders, which to be honest I never found to be as quick to use as I would hope, it really is a poor synth. Not as nice sounding as a D50. I see no reason to buy one. I was very disappointed by it, the JD990 is another beast altogether however, very powerful.
The V-Synth is very powerful, and well made too. No dodgy red goo to leak everywhere like on the JD800.
In all honesty unless you record all your synths in one go, and not one t a time, I'd be selling the JD800 and your D50. Invest the money in something else.
hey don't forget to vote for V-synth then!
btw my jd is red goo free - took me a day to sort that and no problems. It can sound beautiful in my opinion though does miss out on the width of sound thanks to no tone panning. V-synth, honestly, really is a much more powerful and useful synth overall (I've voted for V-synth myself last week). I love the JD but the V-synth is in a different league and I couldn't be without it now.
And I also prefer the V to the D-50 which I've had 4 of now and the D-50 has a very nice sound but next to V-synth? no competition of the depth and breadth of sound possibilities and the clarity of sound, it's only cos it's warmer and thicker sounding not anything intrinsic in it's sound gen vs the V-synth.
I spent ages playing some custom pads on the V-synth, sweeping and swooshing, evolving and powerful (from lowly AJuno samples - not single cycle but proper textures maybe 5 seconds or so long and looped) - then I went to my favourite pads on the D-50 sat above it - now if you do that you will hear how the d-50 sounds in comparison. Beautiful BUT kinda constrained and muddy, noisy for sure. So for me V-Synth is now the best synth Roland has ever made much like that thread said and like Seph? on here keeps saying. It's the only digital I need now.
D-50 is already up for sale, JD will prob go eventually but i need to think long and hard about that.
The reasons i love the V-synth are numerous, and sound quality or vs sound with some other synth is a very small part. It's the whole thing, what it empowers me to do! I've never been able to program sounds from my head as easily as with the V-synth, and some really unique ones too! I can have both happy accidents and planned sounds and they turn out great + there's so much you can do with it vs other synths, load in a new sample bank and you have a 'whatever synth you like' virtually. I like the build of it and the layout. I actually find it faster to program than the JD!! cos of the touchscreen and the logical ergonomic layout. It really allows me to think about sound like never before and that is why it excites me every time I program it. So many choices within but streamlined to make it all accessible - such power and musicality - and is also super productive with everything you could ask for i.e midi sync on everything and on screen graphics of LFOs and ENVs, have never found a synth so easy to use envelopes on as the V!! not even simple junos - weird - i mean synths with more than one env not simple analogs, the use of the physical ADSR sliders within sub screens is great, esp showing the other envs dotted behind so you can match or contrast - pure joy to program. And I've always preferred the roland left/right pitch bend (which here can be mapped to ANYTHING) and that is why it makes my ultimate synth. God knows i've been through a lot (of sub £1k ones) but this wins the award for me, even over analog.
I want a good monster analog to go with it - to sit above it - gonna cost me!
at the moment it's working beautifully with my JX-3P! I'm using the V to send arp data to it via midi and cos my 3P has the organix mod it can also be tweaked/edited on the fly using the 2 Cnobs or the pad/d-beam etc... set to the relevant CC numbers. I'd like a better poly analog on top ideally but the 3P is awesome when you get to know it, very underrated and has just enough proper analog sound with 2 oscs to deliver for my needs.
p.s I think I'm in love with the V-Synth and maybe will sleep with it tonight