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ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby gmeredith » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:48 am

I've seen an ESI2000 in a shop (via internet) in good condition for AU$300 (US$200) with the turbo option installed. Doesn't mention how much RAM but I've got lots of old junked computer here for simms so thats not an issue. Does this seem a reasonable price?

If it is a reasonable deal, I want to hook up a CF card or whatever to SCSI adapter in it. I've read the sticky thread here on SCSI for samplers and think i understand it ok. I've also downloaded the ESI2000 manual and read through it briefly.

My questions are:

Does the ESI2000 have to boot the OS from a drive, or is it ready to go when you power up?

Can I set the ESI200 to auto load a sample or preset on startup?

If so, can it be made to do this from the SCSI drive (or card)? - so that I just switch it on and there are my samples?

I didn't notice this feature in the manual, although I was speed reading it and skipped a lot while looking for other specs. I thought someone here might know a few tricks in this matter.

Also, is there anything or any problem I should watch out for about this sampler before buying it? It's interstate so I won't get the chance to test it, so I'll have to ring and ask the right questions. It's from an actual music shop, not just someone selling online, so there may be some recourse if there is a problem but I'd rather know before than after.

Cheers, graham
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby rap and country » Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:32 pm

OS doesn't need a disk to boot, not sure about auto-loading a sample since I haven't tried to do it yet but I suspect you probably can't. I can check tomorrow and report back.

I bought one a few months back for $75 CDN including a SCSI ZIP drive and some disks, and I see them somewhat regularly on craigslist for under $100, so I'm thinking your price may be a bit high although the turbo kit does add some value.

I'd like to eventually do something to avoid having to use the ZIPs but thus far I haven't been willing to spend more for a CF reader than I did on the unit itself. Apparently scsiforsamplers.com has shut down too, which is unfortunate.
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby gmeredith » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:55 am

Thanks for that info, that's good to know regarding the OS booting. The price is generally a bit higher here in Australia because gear like this isn't in large numbers like in US and europe. By the time I buy one from O/S and add shipping, plus currency conversion with the AU dollar so low, it ends up about the same price for me, plus I have a foreign voltage sampler I may have to adapt.

Yes, I'm very disappointed scsiforsamplers.com is gone too - I've seen scsi card readers at other places but these guys knew all the setup issues and tricks with them for various samplers. It's the loss of wealth of info that is the bigggest loss.

Cheers, Graham
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby rap and country » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:54 am

i messed around with it for awhile and couldn't figure out a way to do any auto-load
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby gmeredith » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:47 am

Hey man, thanks for having a look, though! Much appreciated. It's not so important that it does it, it would just have been a nice feature to have.

I think I might go ahead with buying it. I found a bunch of old internal SCSI drives here at work that might work on it in the meantime until I got a SCSI card reader setup for it.

I also found an external 100MB ZIP drive amongst them, off an old MAC. I'm not sure how it would hook up. It has the SCSI symbol on the back port but it doesn't look like the SCSI type centronics plug I'm used to seeing - it looks more like a standard parallel port socket and cable (this was plugged into a Mac). Does anyone know how this would connect to the ESI2000 and/or what I would need? I want it to go directly to the ESI, not through a computer.

Cheers, graham
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby gmeredith » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:47 am

OK i've got a bit more details about the the ESI2000. It has 128MB RAM and OS 3.02, which means that it won't suffer a bunch of SCSI and MIDI dump problems of the earlier OS's. I've now found the right cable for the external SCSI Zip drive I had lying around which will now fit the ESI port. I'm all set to $pend my cash on an ES1 2000.

Been doing LOTS of reading on connecting them up. Once I get it talking to the external zip drive, I was thinking of then mounting one of the SCSI internal hard drives I had here in it instead. From what I understand, the ESI's own power supply isn't quite powerful enough to power a hard drive safely, and so I need to make up a separate power supply for the internal drive. I pulled a PC power supply out of an old P2 computer and plugged it into the drive just to test the theory but nothing happened - do these computer power supplies have to be hooked up to a motherboard to sense the "power-on" call or something? I know the powers supply is ok.

What do I need to make a stand-alone PSU for an internal hard drive?

Cheers, graham
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby Jays » Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:15 am

In order to power on an ATX PSU without the MoBo you'll have to patch the green wire with any of the black wires on the MoBo plug.
Here's a complete guide how to do it: http://modtown.co.uk/mt/article2.php?id=psumod
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby gmeredith » Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:39 am

Hey Jays!

That's exactly what I wanted to know!! Thanks heaps! Just tried it out - it works a treat!

I also managed to find a really compact ATX PSU out of another pentium 2 that will fit neatly inside the ESI casing. This is looking like its going to be a good zero cost internal hard drive initial setup for my soon to be ESI2000. Eventually I'd like to try the SCSI-CF card drive, but for the moment, I'll be broke after I buy the ESI so I'll just enjoy it first.

Cheers and many thanks!

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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby gmeredith » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:18 am

OK, the deal is done - I've just bought it and its being delivered :D

Over here in Australia, Kevin Rudd the Prime Minister has given us all $900 each to spend as part of the recession Stimulus Package of $AU42billion just passed in the senate today. He told me to go and buy a sampler. I told him I would obey him. Thanks Uncle Kev!

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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby hollandturbine » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:46 am

Uncle Kev told me he spent his stimulus package at Goldfingers.
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby gcoudert » Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:07 am

gmeredith wrote:Over here in Australia, Kevin Rudd the Prime Minister has given us all $900 each to spend.


And I thought Gordon Brown's VAT rebate was generous!
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby marry9 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:50 am

What type of memory cards are faster to move data?
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby Ashe37 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:08 am

on these? any memory you can get for them.
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby gmeredith » Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:21 pm

I have a Sandisk 4GB high speed card and a cheapo generic 2GB - they take the same time, no difference
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Re: ESI-2000: SCSI and memory cards

Postby Ashe37 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:31 am

Largely because of the limit of the 50-pin SCSI connector- SCSI is limited to 5 MB/s, and Fast SCSI is limited to 10 MB/s. Most cards will do 30 MB/s and up.
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