Roland JX showdown: JX-3P vs JX-8P vs Super JX10

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Re: Roland JX showdown: JX-3P vs JX-8P vs Super JX10

Postby Pro5 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:15 pm

vuuv wrote:welp i totally went and splurged and got a j3xp w/ the programmer and it's the best


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Re: Roland JX showdown: JX-3P vs JX-8P vs Super JX10

Postby alan93 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:00 pm

Sorry for the late bump but I got the 3p when it first came out in '84 and still love it. The punchy brass is the best.
The strings are also thick with the proper detune and chorus and an added external chorus delay.
The best compliment I ever got was from a music professor who listened to one of my classical recreations who said "How did you do that?"
The programmer is fast, versatile and feeds creativity on the fly.

The only draw back I found on this was no portamento. Not sure if the others have it but its a huge hole on an otherwise great synth.
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Re: Roland JX showdown: JX-3P vs JX-8P vs Super JX10

Postby Pro5 » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:12 pm

alan93 wrote:Sorry for the late bump but I got the 3p when it first came out in '84 and still love it. The punchy brass is the best.
The strings are also thick with the proper detune and chorus and an added external chorus delay.
The best compliment I ever got was from a music professor who listened to one of my classical recreations who said "How did you do that?"
The programmer is fast, versatile and feeds creativity on the fly.

The only draw back I found on this was no portamento. Not sure if the others have it but its a huge hole on an otherwise great synth.


Well, you could KIWI mod it if you feel the loss badly. I believe KIWI mod has portamento. It's a great mod all round as well.
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Re: Roland JX showdown: JX-3P vs JX-8P vs Super JX10

Postby Pro5 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:33 am

commodorejohn wrote:Man, the JX-10 gets such a bad rap. Yes, the MIDI sucks, yes, the range of sound is limited, but within that range it's just a pure joy. Super-classy, lush, mellow, restrained tones are what it excels at - somehow even the stuff like oscillator sync that generates weird yowly tones on other synths comes out sounding refined on the JX-10. You have to go into full-on cross-mod-with-heavy-pitch-modulation territory before it even approaches sounding nasty and dirty. So when you employ those features, there's a whole world of classy, mellow sounds that on other synths would be getting funky and nasty to be explored. It may not be a jack-of-all-trades, but dammit, it certainly approaches being a master of some.


yeah, well I agree it is a master of some (warm paddy analog DCO strings for one) but... I'd rather the MKS-70 (if you don't mind racks and don't have space for that monster keybed on the JX-10), with better midi and less to go wrong. I generally prefer keyboards but due to the somewhat flaky nature, and footprint of the giant JX-10 the MKS-70 is a good choice here.

Either way, one thing I'd always advise on the 8P/10/MKS-70 is to run it without the chorus as much as you possibly can, it seems to exaggerate the shortcommings in the oscs/filter more than on most synths. Run the basic sounds through some outboard/plugs - bypass the chorus and things start sounding a lot better.
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Re: Roland JX showdown: JX-3P vs JX-8P vs Super JX10

Postby commodorejohn » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:33 pm

Depends on your preference, I suppose. I'm not really a fan of rack-mount stuff simply because it's so much less hands-on (I'll put up with it on synths where there's not a lot of knobbiness to begin with, like my DMS-8 Mirage, though.) Granted, you don't even get that much hands-on capability with the JX-10 unless you've got the PG-800, but I'm much happier sitting down at a specific keyboard and putting my mind in that frame of reference than I am controlling a bunch of rack-mount gear from a computer.

As for the chorus, it really depends on what you're trying to accomplish. It's not good for every sound (and the fact that there are only two settings certainly does nothing to help that,) but for certain kinds of sounds it's very nice indeed. (Layering two tones with different chorus settings can help to bring a little balance into it, as well.)
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Re: Roland JX showdown: JX-3P vs JX-8P vs Super JX10

Postby Pro5 » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:59 am

I definitely prefer keyboards as I said, and I think very similar to you on that.

It's just in this specific case I find the downsides of the JX-10 and the upsides of the MKS-70 compelling enough to, for once, go for the rack if you have the option.

Though I do think, really, the JX-10 actually looks impressive and quite grand in it's understated grey and elongated keybed. Certainly didn't hurt Nick Rhodes on stage/studio in the Notorious/Big Thing era (D-50 joined him for Big thing)

Having said this, the racks now tend to have higher prices and the custom software that fred guy is working on will level the playing field concerning midi bugs in the JX-10 so it's only really a question of the large keybed and if that's a problem or not.

That mod (for both JX10 and MKS-70) looks hella tasty btw - 2 extra FAST envs, PWM!! and all the rest... :mrgreen:
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